Blood PvP
Saturday, April 21, 2012
stronger 3v3
doing 3v3 with mates, just wondering wats stronger DK/enh/priest or dk/hunter/priest.
cheers.
Both kinda suck tbh. I've seen one enhance in arena in about 5 months. DK/hunter/pally is a good setup, however, so if you have to choose between the two comps listed above, I'd choose dk/hunter/priest
quick fix for blood tanking
With Improved Bloodstrike we gain damage, crit, and healing that applies strictly to DS. Why not get rid of the crit, which is unnecessary for tanks anyway, and give us 6-7% hit chance. The hit chance would be strictly tied to DS so as not to be overpowered and 1-2% of hit would be easy to get. And if that seems to op replace the crit with an 8% reduction to parry chance so that at 26 expertise DS can not be parried or dodged.
Correct if I'm wrong but either way would be easy to implement and would not be ridiculously op whereas it applies strictly to DS. Also it would be a great step in the right direction to making DK tanks just a little less spiky.
Correct if I'm wrong but either way would be easy to implement and would not be ridiculously op whereas it applies strictly to DS. Also it would be a great step in the right direction to making DK tanks just a little less spiky.
So how gear dependent is UH dps?
I recently picked up the 378 Axe off shannox as well as a few other pieces, and moved from DW frost (2x 353 weapons) and my dps did go up just not as consistently as i wanted. Probably from 14kish (average i had higher and lower) to 16kish I have hit as hitgh as 22k and as low as 13 depending on fight mechanics. I am just wondering if I will get higher performance out of 2h frost given my gear or if 2h UH will probably be my best bet unless I can lay my hands on a pair of the 378 boe 1h axes (unlikely). Personally I prefer unholy as it is seen less often and fits my consistency over potential play style.
So for the more experienced dps DKs out there the real question is should I just keep grinding out the JP and t11 upgrades I can get and stick with UH or will Frost give me more while getting the gear to back UH up?
All class/spec combos depend on gear. You won't magically jump up 6k DPS once you reach a magic item level. Your gear, as is, doesn't support UH very well at all. If you want to do Unholy, you need to trade all of your expertise for Haste and Mastery.
Switch to D/W frost, get better gear, continue to be D/W frost, and put out more damage then you will as Unholy. If you want to play unholy, because you like the play style better, or whatever your reason, then play Unholy, but you're going to want to go read up on stat weights for unholy. It's not a matter of gear dependance, there's no magical point in gear level where unholy is going to be better then D/W frost at this point.
So for the more experienced dps DKs out there the real question is should I just keep grinding out the JP and t11 upgrades I can get and stick with UH or will Frost give me more while getting the gear to back UH up?
All class/spec combos depend on gear. You won't magically jump up 6k DPS once you reach a magic item level. Your gear, as is, doesn't support UH very well at all. If you want to do Unholy, you need to trade all of your expertise for Haste and Mastery.
Switch to D/W frost, get better gear, continue to be D/W frost, and put out more damage then you will as Unholy. If you want to play unholy, because you like the play style better, or whatever your reason, then play Unholy, but you're going to want to go read up on stat weights for unholy. It's not a matter of gear dependance, there's no magical point in gear level where unholy is going to be better then D/W frost at this point.
Unholy PvP: How to
Hey all, I've played Frost exclusively and know all there is to know.
I only play 2s with a healer so the DpS is all me.
I was wanting to give unholy a try but I have only two questions.
1. Typical rotation to kill healers.
2. Typical rotation to purely DpS.
Both as Unholy. I know there isn't a "rotation", but surely there is a typical way to down each. Thank you
Now I don't play a DK. So don't take my word for it. But I'm pretty sure you want to Necrotic Strike as much as you can.. so like.
Chains, Plague Strike or Necrotic strike, Necrotic Strike. Then frost rune and two blood runes into death runes. Festering strike plus a blood strike or pestilence. Then go to town with necrotics.
I dunno, something like that.
keep your diseases up, and get 5 deathcoils to make pet an abom and summon gargoyle.
Once you've done that necrotic strike and Festering Strike are your friend. ;)
I understand things will different when i hit lvl cap, but I'm wondering why everyone is cutting Scourge Strike from their PvP burst rotations. At my level, it hits like a Mack truck. Is this not the case at 85, or is the utility of the other strikes too important to justify spending the runes?
I only play 2s with a healer so the DpS is all me.
I was wanting to give unholy a try but I have only two questions.
1. Typical rotation to kill healers.
2. Typical rotation to purely DpS.
Both as Unholy. I know there isn't a "rotation", but surely there is a typical way to down each. Thank you
Now I don't play a DK. So don't take my word for it. But I'm pretty sure you want to Necrotic Strike as much as you can.. so like.
Chains, Plague Strike or Necrotic strike, Necrotic Strike. Then frost rune and two blood runes into death runes. Festering strike plus a blood strike or pestilence. Then go to town with necrotics.
I dunno, something like that.
keep your diseases up, and get 5 deathcoils to make pet an abom and summon gargoyle.
Once you've done that necrotic strike and Festering Strike are your friend. ;)
I understand things will different when i hit lvl cap, but I'm wondering why everyone is cutting Scourge Strike from their PvP burst rotations. At my level, it hits like a Mack truck. Is this not the case at 85, or is the utility of the other strikes too important to justify spending the runes?
Frost spec DW heirloom
If I go frost DW for weapons should I use the agility/crit 2.8 sword and then 2.8 Parry sword?
Yes.
No. Use 2 agil maces. they give haste which really helps out the build all around. The agil part doesnt matter till 80 anyways, this is how i did it and was literally blowing EVERYTHING up till i hit cata content and had to switch weapons.
Yes.
No. Use 2 agil maces. they give haste which really helps out the build all around. The agil part doesnt matter till 80 anyways, this is how i did it and was literally blowing EVERYTHING up till i hit cata content and had to switch weapons.
PVP Presence
Just getting into a little PVP on my Deathknight. What Presence should I use as a Lvl 85 Frost DW Dk? Thanks!
Unholy presence for 2h frost/dw frost/2h unholy. The GCD decrease is essential for pvp
Unholy presence for 2h frost/dw frost/2h unholy. The GCD decrease is essential for pvp
PVP- Rogue or DK?
Hey all, i'm curious about the state of Death knights for pvp atm. ive got one at 80, and am lvling up my rogue(currently 84) and i just want to know what class would be a better for pvp atm.
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